that goes to michael's question about how do you write an law? >> i was earlier accused of being the hopeful aspirational voice, and this is really quite refreshing. i guess what are no interested in -- how hard is it to draw a bright minds? it is modeled. the -- it is muddled. how in some senses is speech and in some senses not. and i would argue, what exactly is the difference when i go in the ballot box and i go purely on my own economic interests. i do not want my taxes to be higher and i want -- i think this guy will make them lower. how is that different than i do not want the taxes on the corporation to be higher. it seems like trying to write these incredibly complex rules that people will just work around. maybe you can say -- what is the case, what is the vision? >> let's take a slightly different example. the difference between ideological and self-interested donors. let's say you have some hedge fund donner give a lot of money to obama and 2008 -- donor give a lot of money to obama in 2008. now he has decided that obama hates treasury